“Beta O’Rourke May Benefit From an Unlikely Support Group: White Evangelical Women”, Elisabeth Dias, New York Times, 2018-10-09
This shift is that these women are seeing O’Rourke as a “stark moral contrast to Mr. Trump.” They are seeing other moral values that Trump does not have; values that are just as important as opposing abortion.
The problem with abortion as a political issue is that it ignores many problems that are not controlled by an “unwilling” mother.
Shall a teen-age girl be responsible for a child fathered by force, whether by a known or unknown male?
Shall a woman of any age be forced to bear a child whose birth will kill her? What would that do to any previous children she had?
We really cannot make any sweeping pronouncements about abortion without knowing all facts in each individual case.
If we make all abortions illegal, who will be punished? Will it be the unwilling mother? Will it be the “back alley abortionist”? Will it be the not present father?
Ironically, some of these “value” voters are supporting a party that is quite willing to cause unwanted abortions in other countries. How many pregnant women are killed in wars? How many of these pregnant women even support the wars in their countries? And some of these politicians with the “big buttons” are quite willing to obliterate large numbers of women and children.
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Tuesday, October 09, 2018
Thursday, October 31, 2013
Am I a descendant of illegal immigrants?
My great-grandfather, John J. R. Magree, was supposedly born in Brooklyn, New York, at least according to all the census records from 1870 on, his obituary, and other records. Brooklyn has no record of his birth.
Because John C. Magree was a mate in New York harbor in the 1850 census and master of the Ship Ivanhoe in Jan. 1851, I assumed that John C. Magree was his father. The Brooklyn city directories of the 1850s list a Margaret Magree, widow. Was she the abandoned wife of John C. Magree? John C. Magree was still alive during the Civil War.
However I did find records of the marriage in Liverpool, England, of John C. Magree and Margaret Pope, and then of the birth to this couple of John James Richard Magree. Given the rarity of the name Magree, isn't the probability rather strong that this is the John James Richard Magree who became known as John J. R. Magree as an adult?
But I can find no record of Margaret Magree and John J. R. Magree traveling on John C. Magree's ship or any other ship. Did John C. bring them as unlisted passengers? Did they not need to be on the manifest because they were the master's family? As far as I can tell, the same manifest did not list any of the crew, either.
So, do we follow the rule that Barack Obama, born in Hawaii of an American mother and a Kenyan father, is not born in America? Or do we follow the rule that Ted Cruz and John McCain, born in Canada and the Panama Canal Zone, respectively, of at least one parent who was a U.S. citizen, are born in America? I guess, sarcastically, since I am white we follow the Cruz/McCain rules.
However, if we follow the "Obama" rule, then I am the descendant of illegal immigrants. Not only was my great-great grandmother presumably born in England, but we have have no birth certificate to prove that John C. Magree was born in the United States. The only "proof " is that on his marriage application in England, John Cornelius Magree gave his father's name as Vinsent Magree. There was a Vincent Magree in the 1840 census with at least one male around 12 years old.
That's all rather slim evidence that my paternal line has been born of legal immigrants.
If that makes me an illegal immigrant too, where should I be deported to? England, Germany, Poland? I have traced ancestors to all three of those countries.
Because John C. Magree was a mate in New York harbor in the 1850 census and master of the Ship Ivanhoe in Jan. 1851, I assumed that John C. Magree was his father. The Brooklyn city directories of the 1850s list a Margaret Magree, widow. Was she the abandoned wife of John C. Magree? John C. Magree was still alive during the Civil War.
However I did find records of the marriage in Liverpool, England, of John C. Magree and Margaret Pope, and then of the birth to this couple of John James Richard Magree. Given the rarity of the name Magree, isn't the probability rather strong that this is the John James Richard Magree who became known as John J. R. Magree as an adult?
But I can find no record of Margaret Magree and John J. R. Magree traveling on John C. Magree's ship or any other ship. Did John C. bring them as unlisted passengers? Did they not need to be on the manifest because they were the master's family? As far as I can tell, the same manifest did not list any of the crew, either.
So, do we follow the rule that Barack Obama, born in Hawaii of an American mother and a Kenyan father, is not born in America? Or do we follow the rule that Ted Cruz and John McCain, born in Canada and the Panama Canal Zone, respectively, of at least one parent who was a U.S. citizen, are born in America? I guess, sarcastically, since I am white we follow the Cruz/McCain rules.
However, if we follow the "Obama" rule, then I am the descendant of illegal immigrants. Not only was my great-great grandmother presumably born in England, but we have have no birth certificate to prove that John C. Magree was born in the United States. The only "proof " is that on his marriage application in England, John Cornelius Magree gave his father's name as Vinsent Magree. There was a Vincent Magree in the 1840 census with at least one male around 12 years old.
That's all rather slim evidence that my paternal line has been born of legal immigrants.
If that makes me an illegal immigrant too, where should I be deported to? England, Germany, Poland? I have traced ancestors to all three of those countries.
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